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	<title>Comments on: NRDC Launches Good Vs. Bad Biofuels Campaign</title>
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		<title>By: Eleven Leading National Experts Reach Consensus on Good Biofuels : Gas 2.0</title>
		<link>http://domesticfuel.com/2009/05/01/nrdc-launches-good-vs-bad-biofuels-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-114696</link>
		<dc:creator>Eleven Leading National Experts Reach Consensus on Good Biofuels : Gas 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] including indirect land use. However, science is developing solutions to these issues and the next generation of biofuels will have less negative impact. (Although the worst biofuel is better than the best gasoline in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A Bigger Bang for the Buck: Bioelectricty or Biofuels? - Domestic Fuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Bigger Bang for the Buck: Bioelectricty or Biofuels? - Domestic Fuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may win in terms of transportation and climate but could lose in other categories like water consumption, air pollution and economic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Senator Thune Submits New Bill - EPA Rules on Renewable Fuels Standard : Gas 2.0</title>
		<link>http://domesticfuel.com/2009/05/01/nrdc-launches-good-vs-bad-biofuels-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-113375</link>
		<dc:creator>Senator Thune Submits New Bill - EPA Rules on Renewable Fuels Standard : Gas 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are getting into the ring as the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) just launched its &#8220;better biofuels&#8221; campaign aimed at DC policy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chip Daigle</title>
		<link>http://domesticfuel.com/2009/05/01/nrdc-launches-good-vs-bad-biofuels-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-113317</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Daigle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 16:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Corn Farmers are Not Evil

Dear Sir:

In general, I like the goal of differentiating between good and bad Ethanol, but we don’t have to label the Corn Ethanol people as Evil.  Corn Ethanol, like MBDT was a good, noble idea but we later found better things.  Sugarcane, Sweet Sorghum, Energy Cane, Jatropha are much better at reducing our carbon footprint.  The Corn Farmers are not evil and still could play an important part of reducing the carbon footprint.  We can trade corn, dollar for dollar, to Poor, starving Third World Countries for clean and green ethanol and biodiesel.   

We need to:
1.	Convert future cars to E85.
2.	Convert older cars to E85.
3.	Repeal import tariff on clean and green foreign ethanol and biodiesel from jatropha and sugarcane.  
4.	Trade corn, dollar for dollar, for clean and green ethanol and biodiesel from jatropha and sugarcane.
5.	Mix gasoline only with clean and green ethanol from clean and green sources other than Corn.  Even mixing it with Cellulosic would be good if they ever get their act together and quit building “pilot plants” and start building production plants.
6.	Keep E10 Pumps and start installing E85 pumps all across the country following the Brazil model of reducing carbon emissions 90%.  
7.	As cars and trucks become modified to E85 Flex Fuel, start raising the mandate to CE20, CE30, CE40, etc. but keep the CE10 pumps for older engines that cant be modified.  Do not raise the Ethanol mandates before the cars and trucks are modified.  This would be stupid, naïve, and irresponsible.  (CE stands for Clean Ethanol, not Cellulosic.  They are still scratching their heads waiting for the Big Fat Obama Wedding and Tarp Bailout money.)
8.	Build Civilian Stratigic Petroleum Reserves in CA and NY to store Clean and Green E85.  This will actually make our country stronger more safe from Gasoline spikes, unlike letting the Gitmo detainees back out on the battlefield.  Keep hands off of the Military’s Stratigic Petroleum Reserve to keep us safe.   
9.	Build an E85 Pipeline from NY to CA.

Chip Daigle
Mandeville, LA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Corn Farmers are Not Evil</p>
<p>Dear Sir:</p>
<p>In general, I like the goal of differentiating between good and bad Ethanol, but we don’t have to label the Corn Ethanol people as Evil.  Corn Ethanol, like MBDT was a good, noble idea but we later found better things.  Sugarcane, Sweet Sorghum, Energy Cane, Jatropha are much better at reducing our carbon footprint.  The Corn Farmers are not evil and still could play an important part of reducing the carbon footprint.  We can trade corn, dollar for dollar, to Poor, starving Third World Countries for clean and green ethanol and biodiesel.   </p>
<p>We need to:<br />
1.	Convert future cars to E85.<br />
2.	Convert older cars to E85.<br />
3.	Repeal import tariff on clean and green foreign ethanol and biodiesel from jatropha and sugarcane.<br />
4.	Trade corn, dollar for dollar, for clean and green ethanol and biodiesel from jatropha and sugarcane.<br />
5.	Mix gasoline only with clean and green ethanol from clean and green sources other than Corn.  Even mixing it with Cellulosic would be good if they ever get their act together and quit building “pilot plants” and start building production plants.<br />
6.	Keep E10 Pumps and start installing E85 pumps all across the country following the Brazil model of reducing carbon emissions 90%.<br />
7.	As cars and trucks become modified to E85 Flex Fuel, start raising the mandate to CE20, CE30, CE40, etc. but keep the CE10 pumps for older engines that cant be modified.  Do not raise the Ethanol mandates before the cars and trucks are modified.  This would be stupid, naïve, and irresponsible.  (CE stands for Clean Ethanol, not Cellulosic.  They are still scratching their heads waiting for the Big Fat Obama Wedding and Tarp Bailout money.)<br />
8.	Build Civilian Stratigic Petroleum Reserves in CA and NY to store Clean and Green E85.  This will actually make our country stronger more safe from Gasoline spikes, unlike letting the Gitmo detainees back out on the battlefield.  Keep hands off of the Military’s Stratigic Petroleum Reserve to keep us safe.<br />
9.	Build an E85 Pipeline from NY to CA.</p>
<p>Chip Daigle<br />
Mandeville, LA</p>
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		<title>By: Reece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 15:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am even more convinced that the ethanol industry must try to persuade Americans to fall in love with next generation biofuels, to sustain acceptance of first-generation biofuels.  The time has passed for trying to convince people that corn makes good fuel.  The industry needs to present the future of biofuels, and show people why it is an effective approach.  Big hint:  this is what the oil companies are doing for oil, and they DO have the $$ billions to spend on public polls and ad testing, so they know it works.  This strategy (promote the future of biofuels) was delivered to the top brass of the industry, and they rejected it because of their short-sighted vested interest in corn-based ethanol, and their pride in their farming heritage, which gets in the way of their thinking of themselves as a FUEL suppliers.  The NRDC is doing the ethanol industry a favor with this campaign.  If they pay attention, they will see that this is a winning approach.  It is essential to the long-term survival of the industry.  At some point in the future, people will look back and say, &quot;can you believe we used FOOD to make fuel, and we burned COAL to make it?&quot;  I am NOT saying that it is a mistake to do so, I am simply saying that the industry needs to understand the public sentiment, and effectively promote the bridge to the future, which is likely to be algae, syngas, or some form of energy-efficient cellulosic ethanol production.  This would allow corn ethanol to maintain its role, just as Shell talking about bent straws allows them the public tolerance to still continue platform drilling for oil in the gulf.  If they can buy time with PR and advertising, then actually transform their industry to efficient next gen methods, the ethanol industry will survive and thrive.  Which is good for all of us, because we WILL need these energy options in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am even more convinced that the ethanol industry must try to persuade Americans to fall in love with next generation biofuels, to sustain acceptance of first-generation biofuels.  The time has passed for trying to convince people that corn makes good fuel.  The industry needs to present the future of biofuels, and show people why it is an effective approach.  Big hint:  this is what the oil companies are doing for oil, and they DO have the $$ billions to spend on public polls and ad testing, so they know it works.  This strategy (promote the future of biofuels) was delivered to the top brass of the industry, and they rejected it because of their short-sighted vested interest in corn-based ethanol, and their pride in their farming heritage, which gets in the way of their thinking of themselves as a FUEL suppliers.  The NRDC is doing the ethanol industry a favor with this campaign.  If they pay attention, they will see that this is a winning approach.  It is essential to the long-term survival of the industry.  At some point in the future, people will look back and say, &#8220;can you believe we used FOOD to make fuel, and we burned COAL to make it?&#8221;  I am NOT saying that it is a mistake to do so, I am simply saying that the industry needs to understand the public sentiment, and effectively promote the bridge to the future, which is likely to be algae, syngas, or some form of energy-efficient cellulosic ethanol production.  This would allow corn ethanol to maintain its role, just as Shell talking about bent straws allows them the public tolerance to still continue platform drilling for oil in the gulf.  If they can buy time with PR and advertising, then actually transform their industry to efficient next gen methods, the ethanol industry will survive and thrive.  Which is good for all of us, because we WILL need these energy options in the future.</p>
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