Comments on: Study: Cars Running Corn-Based E85 Outperform Telsa http://domesticfuel.com/2009/10/15/study-cars-running-corn-based-e85-outperform-telsa/ Alternative Fuel News Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:58:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Book Review - Turning Oil into Salt | EcoChamber http://domesticfuel.com/2009/10/15/study-cars-running-corn-based-e85-outperform-telsa/comment-page-1/#comment-117355 Book Review - Turning Oil into Salt | EcoChamber Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:11:45 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=18137#comment-117355 [...] authors offer other suggestions, such as Plug-In Electric Vehicles (PHEVs) that are flex-fuel compatible as a transition to an all electric grid (but account for the [...] [...] authors offer other suggestions, such as Plug-In Electric Vehicles (PHEVs) that are flex-fuel compatible as a transition to an all electric grid (but account for the [...]

]]> By: Book Review – Turning Oil Into Salt - Domestic Fuel http://domesticfuel.com/2009/10/15/study-cars-running-corn-based-e85-outperform-telsa/comment-page-1/#comment-117110 Book Review – Turning Oil Into Salt - Domestic Fuel Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:49:58 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=18137#comment-117110 [...] authors offer other suggestions, such as Plug-In Electric Vehicles (PHEVs) that are flex-fuel compatible as a transition to an all electric grid (but account for the [...] [...] authors offer other suggestions, such as Plug-In Electric Vehicles (PHEVs) that are flex-fuel compatible as a transition to an all electric grid (but account for the [...]

]]> By: rob http://domesticfuel.com/2009/10/15/study-cars-running-corn-based-e85-outperform-telsa/comment-page-1/#comment-117063 rob Wed, 21 Oct 2009 05:33:23 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=18137#comment-117063 Mitch, Just two things: the US power grid is just a touch over 50% coal, not 75%. look here for a start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_power_in_the_United_States and the whole 'disposal' argument for batteries is a complete red herring. Lion batteries for dedicated use are in the upper 90% recycle category. Heck, even since you were a kid [no matter how old you are] your lead-acid batteries bought down the street at the auto parts store have been on and exchange-core basis. The FUD scare tactic of mountains of evil batteries thrown in the trash is a joke. final note. In california, the overall mix is only 20% coal, with only 2% coal-fired electricity in the PG&E district of Northern california where Tesla is located [as are most of their current sales] Look this up....please. Mitch,

Just two things: the US power grid is just a touch over 50% coal, not 75%. look here for a start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_power_in_the_United_States

and the whole ‘disposal’ argument for batteries is a complete red herring. Lion batteries for dedicated use are in the upper 90% recycle category. Heck, even since you were a kid [no matter how old you are] your lead-acid batteries bought down the street at the auto parts store have been on and exchange-core basis. The FUD scare tactic of mountains of evil batteries thrown in the trash is a joke.

final note. In california, the overall mix is only 20% coal, with only 2% coal-fired electricity in the PG&E district of Northern california where Tesla is located [as are most of their current sales] Look this up….please.

]]> By: Mitch http://domesticfuel.com/2009/10/15/study-cars-running-corn-based-e85-outperform-telsa/comment-page-1/#comment-116982 Mitch Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:48:24 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=18137#comment-116982 The article is reasonable in its assessment because today over 75% of our electrical power comes from coal fired plants. I personally believe that this needs to change, but like what we've seen time and time again change is very slow to happen. According to what I've read it would take fifty years to convert over to nuclear power. The other problem with electric vehicles is the environmentally unfriendly process of producing the batteries for electric cars. The process requires mining extremely hazardous materials used in the production of the batteries, and on top of that are the costs involved to dispose of used batteries without creating more environemental problems. Mitch The article is reasonable in its assessment because today over 75% of our electrical power comes from coal fired plants. I personally believe that this needs to change, but like what we’ve seen time and time again change is very slow to happen. According to what I’ve read it would take fifty years to convert over to nuclear power.

The other problem with electric vehicles is the environmentally unfriendly process of producing the batteries for electric cars. The process requires mining extremely hazardous materials used in the production of the batteries, and on top of that are the costs involved to dispose of used batteries without creating more environemental problems.

Mitch

]]> By: Dennis Makarov http://domesticfuel.com/2009/10/15/study-cars-running-corn-based-e85-outperform-telsa/comment-page-1/#comment-116978 Dennis Makarov Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:07:22 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=18137#comment-116978 Why did they consider only coal-based electricity? Where I live, the Tesla would be running on electricity generated at a nuclear reactor. That Tesla would have no CO2 emissions. Why did they consider only coal-based electricity? Where I live, the Tesla would be running on electricity generated at a nuclear reactor.

That Tesla would have no CO2 emissions.

]]> By: Frank http://domesticfuel.com/2009/10/15/study-cars-running-corn-based-e85-outperform-telsa/comment-page-1/#comment-116949 Frank Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:43:07 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=18137#comment-116949 What about hydro electricity to fuel the tesla or wind electricity or solar panel or any other clean electricity??? There is no point in this study... What about hydro electricity to fuel the tesla or wind electricity or solar panel or any other clean electricity??? There is no point in this study…

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