Comments on: ILUC – One Consideration Too Many in Biofuel Regulation http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/ Alternative Fuel News Sun, 12 Feb 2012 21:59:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: CARB Proposes LCFS Soil Sustainability Provisions http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-122356 CARB Proposes LCFS Soil Sustainability Provisions Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:48:24 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-122356 [...] embroiled in a fight for proper reflections of biofuel’s indirect greenhouse gas emissions, aka indirect land use. Now, CARB has created a working group to study soil sustainability provisions of biofuels. The [...] [...] embroiled in a fight for proper reflections of biofuel’s indirect greenhouse gas emissions, aka indirect land use. Now, CARB has created a working group to study soil sustainability provisions of biofuels. The [...]

]]> By: CARB Proposes LCFS Soil Sustainability Provisions | Alternative Fuel | Alternative Fuel Audio, Video & Alarms Automotive Parts Car Loans Car Restoration http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-122355 CARB Proposes LCFS Soil Sustainability Provisions | Alternative Fuel | Alternative Fuel Audio, Video & Alarms Automotive Parts Car Loans Car Restoration Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:43:26 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-122355 [...] embroiled in a fight for proper reflections of biofuel’s indirect greenhouse gas emissions, aka indirect land use. Now, CARB has created a working group to study soil sustainability provisions of biofuels. The [...] [...] embroiled in a fight for proper reflections of biofuel’s indirect greenhouse gas emissions, aka indirect land use. Now, CARB has created a working group to study soil sustainability provisions of biofuels. The [...]

]]> By: CARB Proposes LCFS Soil Sustainability Provisions - Domestic Fuel http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-122339 CARB Proposes LCFS Soil Sustainability Provisions - Domestic Fuel Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:50:55 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-122339 [...] in a fight for proper reflections of biofuel’s indirect greenhouse gas emissions, aka indirect land use. Now, CARB has created a working group to study soil sustainability provisions of biofuels. The [...] [...] in a fight for proper reflections of biofuel’s indirect greenhouse gas emissions, aka indirect land use. Now, CARB has created a working group to study soil sustainability provisions of biofuels. The [...]

]]> By: Clean Air Task Force Sues EPA Over RFS2 - Domestic Fuel http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-120836 Clean Air Task Force Sues EPA Over RFS2 - Domestic Fuel Wed, 26 May 2010 02:56:29 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-120836 [...] explained above. Many also consider this theory, when relating to biofuels, to be as ridiculous as penalizing American farmers for environmental decisions made in other parts of the world, also known as “Indirect Land Use.” In this instance, environmentalists are laying [...] [...] explained above. Many also consider this theory, when relating to biofuels, to be as ridiculous as penalizing American farmers for environmental decisions made in other parts of the world, also known as “Indirect Land Use.” In this instance, environmentalists are laying [...]

]]> By: SacramentoE85 http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-120823 SacramentoE85 Tue, 25 May 2010 14:38:39 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-120823 The Conservation Reserve Program removes crop producing land from production. It does not include the ILUC calculation. Feeding corn to livestock removes it from the world grain market, making the price higher and encouraging Brazilian farmers to grow more crops. That does not include an ILUC calculation. Brazilian hardwood floors are installed in American homes every day. That does not include an ILUC calculation. Most likely the CA ARB folks have Brazilian hardwood floors in their businesses and residences. People eat the meat of the livestock grazing on destroyed Amazon rain forest land. That does not include an ILUC calculation. The environmental regulations against logging in America drive loggers to the Amazon for Brazilian hardwoods. That does not include an ILUC. Well, that would probably be a direct land use change... The Conservation Reserve Program removes crop producing land from production. It does not include the ILUC calculation.

Feeding corn to livestock removes it from the world grain market, making the price higher and encouraging Brazilian farmers to grow more crops. That does not include an ILUC calculation.

Brazilian hardwood floors are installed in American homes every day. That does not include an ILUC calculation.

Most likely the CA ARB folks have Brazilian hardwood floors in their businesses and residences.

People eat the meat of the livestock grazing on destroyed Amazon rain forest land. That does not include an ILUC calculation.

The environmental regulations against logging in America drive loggers to the Amazon for Brazilian hardwoods. That does not include an ILUC. Well, that would probably be a direct land use change…

]]> By: Mark http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-120814 Mark Tue, 25 May 2010 02:28:14 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-120814 Maybe Brazil should grow some corn and soybeans on their sugarcane ethanol land. Oh wait, the corn ethanol bashers don't consider that land "food crop land." Maybe Brazil should grow some corn and soybeans on their sugarcane ethanol land. Oh wait, the corn ethanol bashers don’t consider that land “food crop land.”

]]> By: Opinion: “ILUC…contradicts a basic principle of regulation…that individuals are responsible only for actions that they control.” : Biofuels Digest - biofuels, biodiesel, ethanol, algae, jatropha, green gasoline, green diesel, and b http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-120807 Opinion: “ILUC…contradicts a basic principle of regulation…that individuals are responsible only for actions that they control.” : Biofuels Digest - biofuels, biodiesel, ethanol, algae, jatropha, green gasoline, green diesel, and b Mon, 24 May 2010 10:55:55 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-120807 [...] Schroeder, Domestic Fuel: “David Zilberman, a professor in UC Berkeley’s Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics and assistant researcher Gal Hochman, along with Deepak Rajagopal, argue that indirect land use [...] [...] Schroeder, Domestic Fuel: “David Zilberman, a professor in UC Berkeley’s Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics and assistant researcher Gal Hochman, along with Deepak Rajagopal, argue that indirect land use [...]

]]> By: ceo http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-120762 ceo Fri, 21 May 2010 15:16:45 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-120762 excuses and mis-representations that is all why dont we then just suspend it (biofuels-namely ethanol)in the name of good environmental stewardship and ethical and moral values, till environmental study groups can come up with a conclusive report and impact of land use change? how about that for a change? i am sure the study wont take decades using computer models and using data from land (forests and food crop lands) that have been converted to bio fuel plantations. Oh wait how about the loss of forests in Brazil and Malaysia/Indonesia and elsewhere for growing sugar cane, soybeans and palm for bio fuels? is there no impact on the planet, weather, climate from those carbon capturing, oxygen producing, rain water absorbing regions?millions of acres of forests that took hundreds , thousands of years to establish? and what about the chemical run off into the waterways from the bio fuels plantations? is that not to be considered altering the land? excuses and mis-representations that is all
why dont we then just suspend it (biofuels-namely ethanol)in the name of good environmental stewardship and ethical and moral values, till environmental study groups can come up with a conclusive report and impact of land use change?
how about that for a change? i am sure the study wont take decades using computer models and using data from land (forests and food crop lands) that have been converted to bio fuel plantations.
Oh wait how about the loss of forests in Brazil and Malaysia/Indonesia and elsewhere for growing sugar cane, soybeans and palm for bio fuels?
is there no impact on the planet, weather, climate from those carbon capturing, oxygen producing, rain water absorbing regions?millions of acres of forests that took hundreds , thousands of years to establish?
and what about the chemical run off into the waterways from the bio fuels plantations? is that not to be considered altering the land?

]]> By: Stephanie Dreyer http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-120758 Stephanie Dreyer Fri, 21 May 2010 13:28:41 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-120758 Thank you Joanna for reporting on this important update. The results from this report confirm what Growth Energy has been saying all along: Indirect Land Use Change is an uncertain and inconclusive theory and it is unfair to penalize one industry for the environmental practices of other countries. Thank you Joanna for reporting on this important update. The results from this report confirm what Growth Energy has been saying all along: Indirect Land Use Change is an uncertain and inconclusive theory and it is unfair to penalize one industry for the environmental practices of other countries.

]]> By: Daily News—05/21/10 - Blog - Site Root - BioDieselNow - Renewable biodiesel fuel http://domesticfuel.com/2010/05/20/iluc-one-consideration-too-many-in-biofuel-regulation/comment-page-1/#comment-120756 Daily News—05/21/10 - Blog - Site Root - BioDieselNow - Renewable biodiesel fuel Fri, 21 May 2010 11:49:21 +0000 http://domesticfuel.com/?p=25540#comment-120756 [...] “Indirect Land Use”—is it one requirement too many for biofuel? [...] [...] “Indirect Land Use”—is it one requirement too many for biofuel? [...]

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